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An article caught my attention and once again a “journalist” makes a completely false statement:

Some cryptids have seared into our minds and have become pop culture icons. Bigfoot, the American super celebrity of the ape-man family, was made famous by the Patterson-Gimlin footage, the grainy, minute long film of Bigfoot walking through a clearing while rolling his shoulder to look at his audience…

Of course, both these visual proofs have been proven to hoaxes.

– Richard Worth

 Source:  https://theovertake.com/~full-moon/cryptozoology/

So let’s look at this from my perspective. He mentions the infamous Loch Ness “Surgeon Photo,” and yes, that eventually came out as a hoax including pictures of the model used to create the hoax.

But the Patterson-Gimlin film was never proven to be a hoax. Why does he claim it has been? The statement is very disingenuous.

 

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Frame 352 of the Patterson-Gimlin Film

 

If the same standards of evidence is applied to the existence of Sasquatch it should be used uniformly for claims of hoaxes as well.

 

(Editors Note: That’s why sometimes we are, “not so quick” to call something a hoax, unless we do our due diligence and have something other than a flippant claim, or opinion (unless we state so) before calling something a hoax or leveling accusations. We do not call out things unless it is sourced and documented and evidence provided. We do this for pro-Sasquatch evidence as well )

 

One or two people making claims, which over time changed, providing no physical evidence,  does a hoax not prove. Hieronimous never provided any evidence that he was the person in the suit, nor did the late Phillip Morris ever produce a receipt for the one he claims to allegedly Roger Patterson bought.

 

 

 Hieronimous claims he was friends with Roger Patterson, and accompanied Patterson and Gimlin to Nor Cal with his costume. Patterson’s widow says he’s lying. Bob Gimlin says he’s lying. No one can corroborate Hieronimous’ claim that he accompanied Patterson and Gimlin. Various living witnesses near Bluff Creek say Patterson and Gimlin were not accompanied by anyone. No one ever saw Hieronimous with those two. Hieronimous doesn’t know where they went exactly, or which route they too…There are statements from people around Yakima who recall Hieronimous having some kind of furry costume in his trunk during that period, and remember his claims that he would try to fool some people with it. So there may have been a costume in his possession in the mid-1960’s, but he didn’t hang on to it, nor did anyone take a photo of him wearing it.

Source: http://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2013/11/debunking-claimed-bigfoot-cosume-hoaxer.html

 

Mr. Worth does bring up some of the usual points about pseudo-science, etc, which every skeptic loves to bring up.However, Mr. Worth’s basic knowledge of a topic he mentions, the P-G film, his facts are incorrect when he calls “Patty” a “he.”

If you are going to call something a hoax, Mr. Worth, at least better have his facts straight about the claims and to show real journalism, not wave an accusatory statement that something is a hoax without at least doing the minimal homework required.

Further more why is Worth calling a Sasquatch a member of the “ape family?” Is this some of his own conjecture?  We know it is from the order primate, but we have no clue as to if it is Pongid (Ape) or Hominid, or even its own special branch off.

Now if people want to debate the authenticity of the film that’s fair. People can have their own opinions. But no suit, no receipts, no proof. Everything else is mere conjecture including Mr. Worth’s flippant claim.


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As we have spoken before about recycled photos and others laying claim to them, we have yet another tangled web of folks trying to push their way to the top for attention using recycled hoax photos. But who was really the one pushing their way to the top is the question?

In 2012 a The Bigfoot Evidence Blog shared a picture of an alleged Sasquatch from Happy Camp California allegedly along the Klamath River.

 

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Source: http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/08/new-footage-happy-camp-bigfoot-photo.html

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The above picture had been debunked by a researcher named David Timmons clearly showing an obvious hoax submitted to the Bigfoot Evidence Blog which they clearly noted their suspicions in the last sentence of the article.

What caused a stir  a few days ago was a post caught by Hoaxer’s Exposed Group, Darren Lee,  by PacWest Bigfoot.

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As of this morning PacWest Bigfoot has removed the post post from site, but what made it more interesting was a group member of the page, claimed it was her photo!!! Both reference it as being taken in Washington State, but as we see from the original claim it was allegedly taken in California.

 

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I attempted to inquire as to how the original poster got the photo, but it seems she decided not to answer, which I find highly suspect.

What is most condemning of the PacWest Bigfoot post, appears to be an embellishment of the alleged submitted story.

What we see is a hoaxed story behind the post of the hoaxed picture on the PacWest Bigfoot Facebook page.  from the person that originally posted, is up in the air.

It is noted, on the PacWest post it as did with the individual posting the hoaxed pic stated the location was Washington, and a male subject as the submitter. Matter of fact, the original source of the hoaxed photo dating back to 2012 stated the picture was from a female from Happy Camp, California. It is noted in the original source narrative, it went from a “her” to a “he.”

Also another interesting note is that in January, after numerous inquiries, PacWest Bigfoot, admits that what they do is for entertainment purposes. David the owner of PWB readily admits creating the back stories to Bigfoot encounters and does not want to be confused with what the really great researchers do out there.

 

 

So dear readers, be careful what you read or listen to out in cyberspace. Rest assured what we do is sometimes for entertainment, but it is always the truth, the good, the bad, and the ugly. We always strive, when possible, to source and verify. We will never knowingly put something out there untrue.

The effects of these types of programs on Bigfoot research will be the topic of a future blog.

 


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Jay Bachochin

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We’ve seen this before folks. There has been at one time a fringe element within the Bigfoot community that believed a Sasquatch could cloak, shapeshift, hop aboard a UFO, jump through a portal, and have human qualities.

We usually saw this coming from people who for some reason or another believed in the biological Sasquatch only to get frustrated at their lack of advancement in achieving success that they began to subscribe to these theories.

In the past I have described at length what could cause, scientifically some of these anomalies that people see. Using infrasound (which as explained in the past is not a stretch as  the mammalian orders, some of the largest genera seem to have the ability to use infrasound)

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Infrasound can cause vibrations in the eyes, aural canals and effect the nervous system. These can cause hallucinations, feelings of being watched, hearing things, or generally a creeped out feeling. This affects people differently.

So in some of these cases where the Sasquatch told them something, or they may have hallucinated something such as a disappearance or “cloaking” it would seem extremely plausible that infrasound could be the root cause.

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The other factor at play is the brain’s response to seeing a creature “not yet in the system.” It is a trauma to all, in some wway, and how they deal with that from person to person varies widely. Some of these reactions not only explain some of the weird things people say a Sasquatch can do such as “cloaking”, but more to reality, why people with cameras don’t get a picture or video, or why they don’t necessarily fire a shot if they are hunting, aside from the folks that get a good look at the creature that say it looks human (as do gorillas, chimps etc.).

Also note that some armed folks still in their correct state of mind, use the proper rules of engagement in those scenarios as well such as being a non-threat or shooting because they don’t readily identify such as game.

I say all of this a bit gingerly because for the folks that legitimately experienced these types of reactions, it is real. Remember a person’s perspective (and in this case a legitimate witness) it is their reality. It may be incorrect as to the actual events, but that is how their brains perceived it. So to them it is concrete.

Enter Social Media

Not withstanding, there are some who claim this on a daily basis, weekly, whatever.  They will show pictures where pareidolia takes over and are ambiguous as to detail. I have seen some show pictures of nothing, claiming there was a Sasquatch in the picture cloaked.

“Pareidolia is a type of apophenia, which is a more generalized term for seeing patterns in random data. Some common examples are seeing a likeness of Jesus in the clouds or an image of a man on the surface of the moon.”

As we have seen some of these folks are out to gain a cult like following and try to legitimize their statements and usually they will find some “sheeple” to go along and agree with their every statement and agree to with what they are claiming.

Some of these folks will see the pareidolic effect and make statements to it authenticity.

None of these sites or pages offer any real evidence of the existence of a Sasquatch.

The Habituators

Another group that loves getting a cult like following, although dwindling in numbers, is the habituators or folks that believe they have them constantly living on their property and interact with them daily.

All one has to do is ask themselves, “They talk about it constantly, but where is the evidence?”

Exactly.

We have seen this over the decades, and not a single, interacting habituator can provide us with a decent photograph, DNA, audio?  See where this is going? Evidence, if any, presented again is extremely vague and ambiguous. Sorry, drawings and “gifts” left by Sasquatch does not constitute evidence if you don’t have physical evidence supporting that a Sasquatch did such.

Leaving a “gifting bowl” or anything for that matter on the ground and coming back the next day finding some of it missing with no evidence that a Sasquatch did such, and claiming such is just bad science. There are scores more of the animal kingdom in the forest than just a Sasquatch.

Again perhaps they want to feel special (which is a psychological thing), build a following or get on television.

The Mis-interpreters

The last group I will speak of is the folks that go out and do “research” and come back with nothing but stick “structures” in random areas. No prints, no reports, just…stick stuctures and “nests.” And while I don’t automatically discount these items, without corroborative evidence, it is just again bad science and investigation.

Again you will see the folks trying to make themselves famous, by posting every other day with videos of nothingness. No tracks, not audibles they claim to hear, just a video of them jawing about it.

No here’s the dilemma, because the information all these groups present, who is to say where their intent is without a smoking gun. (An they come few and far between).

So this realm falls into three categories, the wildly enthusiastic, the people who are claiming to know stuff they think they know, and the last group, the hoaxers.

Let’s face it, when it comes to Sasquatch, we actually do know a lot. They are primates, so their general behavior and attitude towards other primates, their curiosity, the mind’s need for stimuli, general living habits, caloric needs, their foot structure should be all pretty well known.

Can they gift? I believe they do, but not in the fashion many of these folks claim. Do they mess around with trees and create structures? I believe they can and do occasionally, just not in the numbers and frequency some people claim. Do they interact with people in a habituation? I believe they have, but the people that experience that are not looking for internet fame or speak of it all that much.

Well anyhow, let’s keep our eyes and ears doing what they do, and always, always, self evaluate your evidence and your experiences.

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Justin Chernipeski

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In bringing the public knowledge about the Sasquatch, it has been a stalwart mission to our readers to point out some of the bad things that go on that generally reflect to public safety and knowledge.

Many hoaxes go on, but I report those that have a continuous or financial impact among enthusiasts and followers of the Bigfoot / Sasquatch phenomena.

Tenet number 4 in our mission statement is that we “have a responsibility to educate.” When we educate to leave out or not to point out the bad, or the ugly that occasionally happens would be an error. Omitting that would be just as some of the things that the less credible or misinformation sites use to their advantage.

As I was collecting thoughts about this week’s blog, the story broke about some guy claiming to work with the government as a Cryptozoologist. First let’s start off by stating the misnomer that some get when the hear the term Cryptozoologist.

  1. It is a term used for someone who studies animals yet to be discovered.
  2. It is not a professional term. Much like the term “Philatelist.”

Now some lately have gotten angry over the use of the term Cryptozoologist, because it sounds like a profession rather than a term for the hobbyist.

A Cryptozoologist is someone simply who studies Cryptozoology, which according to the Oxford Dictionary is, “The search for and study of animals whose existence or survival is disputed or unsubstantiated.”

Similarly a Philatelist is someone who someone who studies Philately, which according to the Oxford Dictionary is, “The collection and study of postage stamps.”

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Every once in a great while, making a fraudulent claim in the Bigfoot Community can have consequences. Especially when you impersonate a federal government employee.

Widely reported first coming to us in the Bigfoot Community and a great catch by Loren Coleman’s site, Cryptozoo News some cat by the name of Keith Barnes of Black Rock, Arkansas, was posing as working for the federal government as a cryptozoologist.

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Keith Barnes

Given what I have shown above we know that is complete hogwash. But in his false claims prompted authorities to check his computer, they allegedly found child pornography.

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Over a year ago, I posted about a paid Bigfoot expedition shut down by Federal authorities on Federal park land involving Bob Garrett.

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Bob & Brandon Garrett

For some reason almost 14 months later just last night I received threats from Garrett’s son, Brandon Garrett, (I will call him Junior) over the blog which exposed the elder Garrett’s gorilla audio and more to the point, the elder Garrett not returning funds as promised to at least three of the patrons, a sum of $1500. Not to mention the loss of costs they incurred to attend the shut down expeditions.

But that story was pretty much ancient history, but since Junior wants to go on a profanity, trollish and inaccurate tirade, let’s once again, bring it to the forefront.

So there we several questions he asked which I wish to address specifically and understand the questions are edited to remove both profanity and insults.

…do you even have enough decency to really do your home work?

                                                                       – Brandon Garrett

I will not address Junior directly but will direct my answers to the readers of this blog.

As a matter of fact yes I do. This did not start as an expose. More to the matter I was asked specifically by some friends of a couple of people that had lost money to investigate the possibility of getting their money back.

I spent at length speaking with the people who had lost their money to Garrett, received documentation and screen captures of their text exchanges with Garrett. I would consider that homework. And I always crosscheck my material as well.

I even attempted to speak with Garrett himself to resolve the situation. What I found was the elder Garrett refusing and making excuses NOT to give their money back. The story switched from one person involved in the venture when he spoke to the family to another when he spoke to me. He was 100% not at fault, yet the PayPal payment was made out to none other than “Robert Garrett.”

The buck stops there legally. The rest is minutia. Wherever the money went, if its there or not, what ever you claim; Garrett received money, admittedly and evidentiary, for a service he did not provide.

In February of 2016 she had paid for an expedition with the Texas Big Thicket Watch Guide Service, payable to one Robert Garrett, in the amount of $1000.00. Only to be told later that the expedition had been cancelled because they had been shut down by the federal government. When she spoke with Garrett she had asked about getting her money back, but Garrett said he was broke because he had to pay huge fines. If he gave her some time he would pay her back. He eventually stopped answering her calls. –Squatchdetective’s Blog 3/28/2017

Garrett was perhaps, in my opinion, the rudest and ill tempered person I have ever spoke with, simply trying to resolve the situation. Then as I peeled the onion back, another person who never got their money back came forward, and actually another and then the audio of a gorilla passed around, and confirmed by multiple sources, Garrett claiming it was a Sasquatch.

When you have witnesses that talk at length to you and give you everything you ask, and then ask for the other side of the story, and get a profanity laced tirade, with nothing to back up the story, who do you think is the truthful one here?

I think its really funny that you have comments blocked on this.

                                                          – Brandon Garrett

I think its really funny that Junior was mistaken. Actually I don’t have them blocked at all. Matter of fact there were numerous comments made, including a slightly dissenting opinion which a discussion was engaged. For some reasons, the comments were closed. I don’t specifically remember doing it, but it’s really moot anyhow, because it was OVER a year ago. Why all of a sudden now? Can’t help it if you are a “Johnny come lately.”

Any way comments are moderated to keep out profanity laced, trollish and threatening comments and done to promote civil conversation. Had the younger Garrett posted a comment in the section which resembled intelligent, questions and conversation, it would have been approved. In the manner he posed them on an instant message, umm no.

I will also make a quick note that  Junior was not responsible for any of the funds lost to people. I get it. He’s trying to defend his Dad, but there is a right was and a wrong way. The elder Garrett could have avoided everything just by returning the funds which the first family was even willing to get it back a little bit at a time.

But it just goes to prove, Junior’s questions are laced with inaccuracies, and was meant to get a rise out of me, as did the prank phone calls after the initial Garrett expose which I have never before this mentioned.

In truth, I am laughing. (Not with them either!)

Anyway, it’s all there in the original blog “Expedition None,” for one to catch up on if they so choose.


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Seth Breedlove

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I recently read an older (circa 2016) article by UK Paleontologist, Dr. Darren Naish that was a short piece that widely covered the topic in the Scientific American website.

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Dr. Darren Naish, Paleontologist

I love to do point counter point on his article. Of course I am not a scientist, nor do I claim to be. I am an Investigator by trade. Now how all that moshes into the Bigfoot mystery sums up as this.

As an investigator (not a scientist) my job is to gather evidence forensically to prove to the scientist either it is worth taking a reexamination of the topic or to prove it is existence.

My job is not necessarily the scientific method of hypothesis, experiment, result and repeat to see if we get the same result. That is rather a difficult task since like us and other animals, behavior is dynamic and can be different, for the same experiment.

My job is to document, gather evidence and present a good case. Most of the evidence is either direct evidence (in the form of testimony), subjective evidence and circumstantial evidence. Physical evidence would be things such as DNA, hair samples (which would defy classification), undisputed photographic evidence (which with CGI today, even if the real thing would be argued for decades). Track evidence which can be forensically determined (which also is a point of dispute amongst folks).

So lets look at some of the things Naish has stated.

“I do not think that the data we have at the moment – this includes tracks, hairs, vocalizations, photos, and the innumerable eyewitness accounts – provides support for the notion that Bigfoot is real, and have come to the conclusion that it is a sociocultural phenomenon: that people are seeing all manner of different things, combining it with ideas, memes and preconceptions they hold in their minds, and interpreting them as encounters with a monstrous, human-like biped.”

Counterpoint: I agree that the data at the moment does not provides scientific support, however the sheer number of eyewitness reports defies that.  The old adage of “preconceptions” does not hold water to the folks that have encounters that, do not one iota, believe in the existence of such a creature until they have a sighting. Some are left traumatized, and haunted by what the have seen because it defies their belief system. And while this blanket statement may hold true for some it is not applicable to all. The article later goes on to state that long time Sasquatch researcher Rene Dahinden never found tracks (or had a sighting), can lend credence that Naish’s statement is in error. Certainly, Dahinden had a preconceived notion, as did Green, and Byrne, yet neither of those veteran researchers had laid eyes on a creature.

“…while writing this article (and others) is that there’s scarcely any Bigfoot imagery online which is marked for re-use: everything is protected by copyright and unavailable for free use by others. Make of that what you will.”

Counterpoint: Well, we are in the internet age. Everything in places is subject to copyright. There are pictures of all sorts of animals on the internet that are copyrighted. Does that mean they are faked or not real?

“Bigfoots purportedly make noises, and a standard part of modern Bigfoot lore is that people might be able to ‘call in’ or even communicate with Bigfoots by making wails, screams, roars or howls, or by hitting trees or rocks to make far-carrying percussive whacks, these sounds resembling the noises that are attributed to the creature. What’s notable is that these vocalizations are phenomenally diverse: the ‘Ohio howls’, ‘Samurai chatter’, the whoops, whistles, growls and howls attributed to this animal well exceed what we’d expect for a single animal species that communicates over long distances, and there’s nothing approaching homogeneity of the sort present across known primate species… The conclusion must be that the noises have diverse origins, by which I mean that they are mostly sounds made by known animal species, including cattle, coyotes (and their hybrids) and humans.”

Counterpoint: Dr. Naish may be a paleontologist, but not a primatologist whom will tell you, whistles, growls, howls and whoops are all part of primate communication. However in fairness, there is a diverseness to many vocalizations some of which I am certain are misidentifications, and I truly do not consider them much other than anecdotal evidence. They will not prove a Sasquatch exists unless there is direct or physical evidence proving they are the ones making the sounds, tree knocks, etc. But in an investigation, these are important to make correlations amongst other investigators (researchers). The conclusion must be, more research and good investigation is required, not an assumption, because there is no more proof than Dr. Naish’s conclusion than a conclusion that a Sasquatch caused it.

 

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The Sierra Sounds recordings, Ron Morehead

 

“Indeed, some of the most incredible of these sounds – if you’ve never heard the ‘Sierra sounds’ or ‘Samurai chatter’ recorded by Ron Morehead, well, you’re in for a treat – sound nothing at all like the others that have been reported and recorded, and have only been heard exclusively in one small area…And, yes, I think that many of the more incredible Bigfoot sounds – ‘Samurai chatter’ and other speech-like utterances among them – were generated by people.”

Counterpoint: In one of more recent posts was mistaken for defending the Sierra Sounds. That was not necessarily my intention. But in the last comment by Dr. Naish, it is an opinion, as are all of the above statements. Has Dr. Naish taken the Morehead – Berry recordings to an acoustical engineer to analyze the audio? Certainly not mentioned in his statement, making this a layman’s opinion as his field of expertise is Paleontology (which is the scientific study of life that existed prior to, and sometimes including, the start of the Holocene Epoch). His area of expertise is not acoustics, nor primatology nor anthropology, all of which Dr. Naish’s “conclusions” are based upon. However stuff of the “Sasquatch Ontario” ilk definitely are human and hoaxed.

Summary

 

I respect Dr. Naish, for being a scientist, and he has a bit of an open mind to the topic, but all of what you have heard by him is opinion, some of which is spin by the scientific community to brush away the phenomena which we have heard over the last two decades.

Remember the older excuse of there not being enough food source in the forest, until it was mentioned that a black bear needs 21,000 calories a day for a month prior to hibernation?

I have the ability to read and learn of things that cross over into other realms of expertise. So why is his opinion more weighted than any other laymen who have read upon topics? I am sure his intentions are well meant, but many times scientists are turned into talking heads, basing their statements on opinions rather than research.

Many of heard me speak about Dr. Phillip Stevens and Biologist Curt Kogut talk of some of the ridiculous “talking head” statements said on my MonsterQuest episode. This is is vary similar, but with more fairness and a gentle touch.

“There is no evidence that North America could support a large primate”

                                                                          — Dr. Phillip Stevens on MonsterQuest

                “Homo-sapiens are large primates, and so were the aboriginal native Americans!”

                                                                                           —- Steve Kulls

“If these things were out there, people would be seeing them”

                                                         —Curt Kogut Biologist, NYS ENCON

“WTF???”

                                                             —- Steve Kulls


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Chris and I are pleased to have on as our guest, Suzanne Ferencak, the main subject of a Bigfoot documentary named “The Back 80.” Also we’ll have on Alan Megargle, Jesse Morgan of Twisted Tree Productions, the duo behind “The Back 80!”

 

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“In the heart of mid-America, among the forests and streams, something terrifying lurks. During the summer of 2013, a woman’s world is turned upside down after seeing a creature cross the road in front of her one afternoon. She soon realizes that she is not alone on her own property and struggles to separate the truth from her own obsession. After some digging, she finds others in town who have similar stories to tell. Her quest for answers takes her to the only place these creatures could live…the abandoned, gated woods of the back eighty.” – http://www.theback80.com

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